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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro%20Luciano/near/219509395" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Luciano Facchinelli <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro.20Luciano.html#219509395">(Dec 10 2020 at 17:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hi all, I just wanted to say hi. I'm Luciano a Devops/SRE from London (although I was born in Uruguay). <br>
I got in touch with <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="121055">@Pietro Albini</span> on Twitter because I am interested in help the infra team.<br>
Just so you have a little bit more of background about me: I been doing DevOps for the last 5 years, in the last two I worked as SRE at Disney Streaming Services (the company behind Disney+, ESPN+, HULU) and now I'm at a consulting company working as architect for Cloud, Devops and Security<br>
So I am interested in infrastructure in general, cloud, automation, IaaC, programming.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro%20Luciano/near/219536332" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro.20Luciano.html#219536332">(Dec 10 2020 at 21:28)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="wave" class="emoji emoji-1f44b" role="img" title="wave">:wave:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro%20Luciano/near/219536399" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro.20Luciano.html#219536399">(Dec 10 2020 at 21:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>as I mentioned before, contributing to our cloud infra is currently a bit tricky, as a lot of the stuff is not on terraform yet</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro%20Luciano/near/219536702" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro.20Luciano.html#219536702">(Dec 10 2020 at 21:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>but there are a lot of other infra projects that need some love, even though they're a bit more on the coding side</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro%20Luciano/near/219545907" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Luciano Facchinelli <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro.20Luciano.html#219545907">(Dec 10 2020 at 22:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>Would love to hear more about those other infra projects I can help with <span aria-label="blush" class="emoji emoji-1f60a" role="img" title="blush">:blush:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro%20Luciano/near/219548661" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro.20Luciano.html#219548661">(Dec 10 2020 at 23:31)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="http://docs.rs">docs.rs</a> always needs help</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro%20Luciano/near/219548678" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro.20Luciano.html#219548678">(Dec 10 2020 at 23:31)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/docs.rs/issues/1176">https://github.com/rust-lang/docs.rs/issues/1176</a> is a good first issue</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro%20Luciano/near/219597935" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro.20Luciano.html#219597935">(Dec 11 2020 at 12:12)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="370147">@Luciano Facchinelli</span> I'm wondering, which OS are you using? and which programming languages are you the most comfortable with? :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro%20Luciano/near/219597987" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Luciano Facchinelli <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro.20Luciano.html#219597987">(Dec 11 2020 at 12:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>MacOS at the moment<br>
Go, Python, Rust</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro%20Luciano/near/219598205" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro.20Luciano.html#219598205">(Dec 11 2020 at 12:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok, so, there would be a project that would have a <em>huge</em> impact on Rust users on macOS but that we don't have the time to implement right now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro%20Luciano/near/219598316" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro.20Luciano.html#219598316">(Dec 11 2020 at 12:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>basically, rust and rustup releases at the moment are neither codesigned nor notarized, and that's becoming more and more of a problem as apple continues to push for everything to be signed</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro%20Luciano/near/219598498" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro.20Luciano.html#219598498">(Dec 11 2020 at 12:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>we have rough plans for either me or <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116122">@simulacrum</span> to start tackling that next year, but if you're interested in working on the tooling to codesign and notarize stuff we could ship that to users earlier :D</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro%20Luciano/near/219598538" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro.20Luciano.html#219598538">(Dec 11 2020 at 12:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>(we can't deploy it <em>right now</em> as we don't have an apple developer account currently, but that's something <a href="https://blog.rust-lang.org/2020/12/07/the-foundation-conversation.html">the foundation will surely get</a>)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro%20Luciano/near/219598575" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro.20Luciano.html#219598575">(Dec 11 2020 at 12:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>how does that sound?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro%20Luciano/near/219598686" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro.20Luciano.html#219598686">(Dec 11 2020 at 12:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>(if you'd prefer to help with something else there are other ideas too!)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro%20Luciano/near/219599007" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Luciano Facchinelli <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro.20Luciano.html#219599007">(Dec 11 2020 at 12:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>Sure, I'd love to help on that! <br>
Is there any doc/information available about what you guys have done so far that I can start reading to catch up?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro%20Luciano/near/219599411" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro.20Luciano.html#219599411">(Dec 11 2020 at 12:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>so, unfortunately there is not a bunch of documentation</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro%20Luciano/near/219599458" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro.20Luciano.html#219599458">(Dec 11 2020 at 12:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>I could either write something down in an issue/document, or setup a call to chat with you on this</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro%20Luciano/near/219601032" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Luciano Facchinelli <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro.20Luciano.html#219601032">(Dec 11 2020 at 12:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>Whatever works for you, both options work for me</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro%20Luciano/near/219601065" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Luciano Facchinelli <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro.20Luciano.html#219601065">(Dec 11 2020 at 12:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>The first one might be beneficial for others in the team</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro%20Luciano/near/219602725" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Luciano Facchinelli <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro.20Luciano.html#219602725">(Dec 11 2020 at 13:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'd need more information about how rustup/rust release pipeline works as well, to fully understand how to add this codesign step into them</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro%20Luciano/near/219603410" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro.20Luciano.html#219603410">(Dec 11 2020 at 13:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>wrote a small summary of the problem on this issue: <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/promote-release/issues/34">https://github.com/rust-lang/promote-release/issues/34</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro%20Luciano/near/219603615" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro.20Luciano.html#219603615">(Dec 11 2020 at 13:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'd love thoughts or followup questions</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro%20Luciano/near/219604057" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Luciano Facchinelli <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro.20Luciano.html#219604057">(Dec 11 2020 at 13:15)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="121055">@Pietro Albini</span> added some comments to the PR</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro%20Luciano/near/220128964" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro.20Luciano.html#220128964">(Dec 16 2020 at 15:24)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="370147">@Luciano Facchinelli</span> I'm wondering if you'd be up to have a zoom call soonish</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro%20Luciano/near/220128981" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro.20Luciano.html#220128981">(Dec 16 2020 at 15:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>I feel like that's going to be way faster than discussing on github :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro%20Luciano/near/220129074" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Luciano Facchinelli <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro.20Luciano.html#220129074">(Dec 16 2020 at 15:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>Sure, next week I'll be available pretty much throughout the week</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro%20Luciano/near/220129089" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro.20Luciano.html#220129089">(Dec 16 2020 at 15:25)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="tada" class="emoji emoji-1f389" role="img" title="tada">:tada:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro%20Luciano/near/220129123" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro.20Luciano.html#220129123">(Dec 16 2020 at 15:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>next monday?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro%20Luciano/near/220129334" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Luciano Facchinelli <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro.20Luciano.html#220129334">(Dec 16 2020 at 15:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>Next Monday sounds good . Morning/Afternoon/Evening?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro%20Luciano/near/220129360" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro.20Luciano.html#220129360">(Dec 16 2020 at 15:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>afternoon CET works for me any time</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro%20Luciano/near/220129395" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro.20Luciano.html#220129395">(Dec 16 2020 at 15:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>16 cet/15 gmt?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro%20Luciano/near/220129557" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Luciano Facchinelli <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro.20Luciano.html#220129557">(Dec 16 2020 at 15:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>15 cet/14 gmt?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro%20Luciano/near/220129863" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro.20Luciano.html#220129863">(Dec 16 2020 at 15:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>also works!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro%20Luciano/near/220129879" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro.20Luciano.html#220129879">(Dec 16 2020 at 15:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>if you PM me the email address I'll send an invite</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro%20Luciano/near/220129887" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Luciano Facchinelli <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro.20Luciano.html#220129887">(Dec 16 2020 at 15:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>Will do</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro%20Luciano/near/220131042" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro.20Luciano.html#220131042">(Dec 16 2020 at 15:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok sent an invite!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro%20Luciano/near/220131106" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Intro.20Luciano.html#220131106">(Dec 16 2020 at 15:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>also added <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116122">@simulacrum</span> as optional if they can make the time</p>



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